Professor of Biological Oceanography
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- Scripps Institution of Oceanography (La Jolla, CA)
- University of California, San Diego
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Interview Date: 01/13/08
Interviewer: Michelle Castillo

What is your title at work?
I am a professor/researcher of biological oceanography at Scripps Institution of Oceanography in La Jolla, California.
What exactly does the field biological oceanography include?
It includes the study of the interaction of animals and plants in the ocean with their environment.
What kinds of tasks does your job entail?
I teach courses in biological oceanography, benthic ecology, deep-sea biology, and wetlands ecology. I also teach courses about larval dispersal and population connectivity. So, I teach different classes. I also advise graduate students who do research, and I do my own research. I also write grant proposals to get funding for my research, and I write research papers when I have time.
What do you research specifically?
My own research spans the intertidal zone (the area of the sea floor that lies between the high and low tide marks, bridging the gap between land and sea) of salt marshes and tidal flats, all the way down to the deep sea along continental margins (portions of the outer edges of the continents that lie under water). I study animal communities that live in sediments. Different biological oceanographers study different aspects of these ecosystems within the ocean.
What other things are you involved in at work, besides teaching and research?
I serve as a journal editor for the journal Marine Ecology. I also sit on a quite a few committees at the university. For example, I am in a search committee for new graduate faculty at the university. I also participate in admissions committees.
What are typical things that you do for your international committees?
I go to scientific meetings and present papers. I participate in workshops and publish papers as a result of the findings at those workshops. I work with several international groups, including the Census on Marine Life.
What does being on an international committee involve?
This means I get to go to meetings in different countries around the world. Many of the committees involve the study of marine diversity, so that is how I got involved.
Is travel a large part of your job?
Travel is a big part of my job. The main activities are either participating in scientific research cruises or in scientific meetings, which take place all around the world. Those would be the two main reasons for me to travel.
What first sparked your interest about the field of biological oceanography?
My early interest in marine science came from high school when I took a NSF (National Science Foundation) summer class at Humboldt State College in northern California. I studied oceanography, marine biology, and mathematics, and that was my first introduction to marine science.
How did your college experience shape your future career in your field?
As I went through college, I had good instructors who influenced my interest in studying invertebrates (they make up 97% of all animal species, and they lack a vertebral column). I got my bachelors degree in biology from Radcliff/Harvard.
What did you do after college?
I worked for a consulting company after college. The firm was called Energy Resources Company. They did projects related to environmental impact of energy exploitation. It was basically an environmental consulting company.
Where did you go to graduate school?
I realized that I needed more education, particularly if I wanted to pursue research in the marine sciences. I decided to apply to graduate schools. I ended up at Scripps Institution of Oceanography, where I got my Ph.D. in biological oceanography.
What did you do after you got your Ph.D.?
I have been on an academic track ever since. I got my Ph.D. at Scripps Institution of Oceanography in 1982. Then, I went to Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution, which is located on Cape Cod in Woods Hole, Massachusetts, for my post-doctorate degree. I was there for a year. After that, I got a faculty job at North Carolina University in Raleigh, North Carolina. I was there for nine years. Finally, I moved back to Scripps Institution of Oceanography in 1992, and I've been here ever since.
What would a typical day at work at the university be like?
A typical day at work would include teaching, which could take the form of classroom teaching or one-on-one interaction with graduate students. Also, I would communicate with collaborators on my different research projects. On top of that, I read files for my committees and go to job seminars. We have had a lot of job seminars lately; I just came back from one three minutes ago! Sometimes, I go to research seminars. We have visiting speakers at the university.In biology, we have two seminars a week, so I typically attend one or two of those a week.
What is a typical day on a research cruise like?
Very often when I am on the ship, I am the chief scientist. My day would begin around 5 a.m. If it is a cruise with a submersible, I might set up experiments that would have to go down with the submarine, and they have to be ready by 6:00 a.m., 6:30 a.m. at the latest. I'll get equipment and experiments ready and put it on the submarine. If I am diving with the submarine, I'll have to be ready to go by 7:30 a.m. If it is a submarine dive, the submarine will come up around 5:00 p.m. We then work much of the night to process samples recovered from the bottom.
What do you do if you are not actively collecting samples during your research cruise?
If I am not diving, I will work on the samples that were collected the day before. I also have to prepare forms and plan the next day's activities, as well as analyze the material that is brought back from that dive each day. During the day, I could be working on processing samples that were collected the previous day, but in the evening, I would be working on newly collected samples. This involves sitting at a microscope, and we might section the samples and preserve them. We have some analyses that involve live animals. We also have to sort and identify what we find. I take pictures of the samples, and prepare paperwork about the dive and the facts about the samples collected. During a typical day at sea, I work somewhere between 18 to 20 hours a day. I do not sleep very much when we are at sea! Then it all starts over again the next day!
What is the typical salary of a post-doctorate fellow who is just entering the field?
I think post-doctoral fellow salaries are in the $35,000 to $45,000 a year range, depending on funding sources for your particular employer.
What is the typical salary range for a starting faculty member in biological oceanography?
The starting salaries for a faculty member at Scripps Institution of Oceanography are somewhat higher, in the $58,000 to $60,000 plus range, maybe higher now. Everybody makes different amounts; it is not necessarily based on time at the institution.
How many years have you been working in your field?
It has been 25 years since I earned my Ph.D.
Where are some of the places that your job has taken you?
My research has taken me to sea in the Indian Ocean. I have worked in the Arabian Sea, off the coasts of Oman and Pakistan. I have worked in the Eastern Pacific off of Chile, Peru, Mexico, Oregon, California and Alaska. I study oxygen minimum zones (the zones in which oxygen saturation in seawater in the ocean is the lowest), and those have developed all along the eastern Pacific Ocean. I worked off New Zealand studying methane seeps (where methane seeps out of ocean sediments, providing nutrients for eubacteria and archaea, the basic organisms of a 'gas-powered' food chain). I used to live and work in North Carolina, and I've done a lot of research on the continental margin off of North Carolina as well.
How has being a woman in a scientific field affected your work?
I think in my field at this time it does not really matter that I am a woman. There are no real disadvantages or advantages, although I recognize that women at senior levels are poorly represented in the field of oceanography. But, I have not run into any obstacles, and I do not think that being a woman has given me any advantage.
You mentioned it could get difficult having a spouse and family with your job entailing so much traveling. Is it possible?
It depends on the spouse. If you have a supportive spouse who understands why you have to travel and do what you do and what is going on, then it is possible. If you do not, it is nearly impossible.
What are some of the advantages of having a job that allows you to do so much hands-on research?
The advantages are that you get to make friends and collaborate with people from a lot of different countries and a lot of different cultures. You get to see a lot of new and exciting things, both when you are traveling on land, and when you are traveling by sea. In deep-sea research, you always have new things coming to the surface that no one has ever seen before. You have a lot of flexibility with your time, both in whom you work with and what you do.
What are the negatives that come with being a biological oceanographer?
The disadvantages are that you are not home a lot. If you have kids, you often miss birthdays and other key events in their lives. Your children and spouse do not get to see you as much as you would like. And, it can be tiring being away from home for long periods of time. Those are big disadvantages.
What are the advantages of being a professor in your field?
The greatest advantage is that you are your own boss. You have complete control of your own time and can determine what science questions you address, what courses you teach, and what students you take.
What are the disadvantages of being a professor in biological oceanography?
The disadvantages are that you have way too much to do. You always have work piled up far beyond what you are capable of doing in a day. There's always a long queue of work you have to do, and you have to live with that queue and not worry about it too much.
I know it is a common trend for people who decide to go for their Ph.D.s to forgo getting their masters and go straight for their doctorate. Is this a good idea?
It really depends on the person and how sure they are that they want a professional career that requires a Ph.D. If they are not sure about getting a Ph.D. or pursuing a professional career in the field, they should get a master's degree first. Ph.D.s take a lot longer, but it is not essential to earn a master's degree before you get your Ph.D. It really depends how much experience you have before you enter you Ph.D. program, and how well you know what you want to do. Having a master's degree does not shave a lot of time off the Ph.D. program. You might save a year, but probably not a lot more. We take students at Scripps Institution of Oceanography whether they have a master's or not, so it does not really matter.
Are there any current trends in your field that you feel are worth mentioning?
I think that science has become much more international due to the ease with which scientists can communicate through avenues such as email and Skype, and also due to the existence of the many international committees and workshops that bring people together. The other thing is that people do a lot more than they used to do. It's not uncommon for a scientist to have five to seven research projects, whereas 30 years ago scientists would have one or two or three research projects.
Is having more research projects to work on a good thing or a bad thing for the scientist?
It's both a positive thing, because people are involved and can do more, and a negative thing, because people have a larger workload, and it thins out attention to any one thing.
What advice would you offer to someone who has an interest in the field of biological oceanography?
My advice would be not to specialize too early. For example, do not do a marine biology major as an undergraduate in college. I would tell a prospective biological oceanographer to get a solid footing in basic sciences, especially biology, and to try to stay broad in their interests. Try to get interested in different things as you go through your college experience.
Do you have to major in biology in your undergraduate career to attain your Ph.D. in marine biology, or can you major in something else?
You can major in environmental sciences. Some people who were physical science majors, for example, physics or chemistry, can get their Ph.D. in marine biology or biological oceanography, but it is much harder to do. You have to go back and take background courses in biology, so it is easier to major in biology from the beginning.
What would help someone to discover whether they have a passion for this career?
I strongly advise getting research experience as an undergraduate or sometime before applying to graduate school. It is very competitive to get into graduate school these days, and the students who are admitted have usually done one or more research projects that have taught them how to conduct science in the field, how write it up and formulate their own scientific questions. Experience is very important in determining how you like the work and providing the background in which a graduate program would be interested in accepting you.
What would you tell someone is the best part of your job?
For me, the best part of my job is the travel and getting to interact with people from around the world. You get to make new discoveries. I like that aspect of it.
